| 
		
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 1,187Threads: 250
 Joined: Nov 2015
 
	
	
		Wristwatch 
left lying curled face-down 
spider waiting 
to entangle in her steely web.
 
Missed her touch 
looped into place 
all caught up.
 Non-practicing atheist 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 703Threads: 141
 Joined: Oct 2017
 
	
	
		.Hi duke,
 like the conceit, but maybe it's a bit too short for it's own good? (And 'snagged' is a little lightweight. 'The Watch' ?)
 
 Given what you do in S2, it feels like quite a jump from 'morning' to 'left lying'. Would the 'why' (of you forgetting) add something?
 
 Don't think you need patiently (pretty strongly implied by 'spider' and 'ensnare')
 Really like 'sticky time' but could it come after 'schedules and appointment' (and so define them?)
 
 There's something about 'vice versa' that doesn't quite convince,  but the idea that time has caught you again is very nice.
 
 Best, Knot
 
 .
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 1,187Threads: 250
 Joined: Nov 2015
 
	
	
		edit;
Day Watch
 
Forgot my wristwatch briefly– 
 
left it lying on the dresser 
darkly curled face-down 
silent spider waiting 
for its chance to tangle me 
in its scheduled and appointed 
web of sticky time.
 
Noticed missing weight in minutes 
looped it back in place 
(or it caught me again).
 
 
Thanks!
 
All good observations/suggestions, most of which I've tried to apply.  "[A]ppointed" for "appointments" may be a grammatic twitch too far.
  (06-11-2023, 09:39 PM)Knot Wrote:  .Hi duke,
 like the conceit, but maybe it's a bit too short for it's own good? (And 'snagged' is a little lightweight. 'The Watch' ?)
 
 Given what you do in S2, it feels like quite a jump from 'morning' to 'left lying'. Would the 'why' (of you forgetting) add something?
 
 Don't think you need patiently (pretty strongly implied by 'spider' and 'ensnare')
 Really like 'sticky time' but could it come after 'schedules and appointment' (and so define them?)
 
 There's something about 'vice versa' that doesn't quite convince,  but the idea that time has caught you again is very nice.
 
 Best, Knot
 
 .
 
 Non-practicing atheist 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 751Threads: 409
 Joined: May 2014
 
	
	
		A suggestion below for your consideration. Based on the earlier exchange...
 
 
 My Wristwatch
 
 left it lying on the dresser
 darkly curled face-down
 silent spider waiting
 for its chance to tangle me
 in its scheduled and appointed
 web of sticky time.
 
 Noticed missing weight in minutes
 looped it back in place
 (or it caught me again).
 
 Just a thought. Using wristwatch as a title/first line, takes the pressure off both and avoids repetition.
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 703Threads: 141
 Joined: Oct 2017
 
	
	
		.
Hi duke. "[A]ppointed" for "appointments" may be a grammatic twitch too far. Maybe, but it didn't jar (and the sonics, appointed web of sticky time worked, for me) ... That said, I did hesitate a bit at 'scheduled'  Day Watch ............. like the new title (though I'm starting to imagine you as a fly!) Forgot my wristwatch briefly– ........... given L8 I don't think you need this left it lying on the dresser ................... again, L8 makes 'left' rather redundant. darkly curled face-down silent spider waiting for its chance to tangle me in its scheduled and appointed web of sticky time. Noticed missing weight in minutes looped it back in place (or it caught me again). .................. still not landing, duke. The idea is right but it doesn't feel solid enough, and the parentheses aren't helping. Best, Knot. 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 1,187Threads: 250
 Joined: Nov 2015
 
	
	
		edit2;
 Wristwatch
 
 
 Left it lying on the dresser
 curled face-down
 spider waiting
 for its chance to tangle me
 in its web of sticky time.
 
 Missed its weight in minutes
 looped it back in place
 caught up again.
 
 
 
 
 Thanks for all the good critique.  Though some lines were liked, I'm leaning toward radical simplification in hopes that ambiguity will substitute beneficially for detail.
 
 Non-practicing atheist 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 400Threads: 58
 Joined: May 2022
 
	
	
		 (06-13-2023, 04:25 AM)dukealien Wrote:  edit2;
 Wristwatch
 
 
 Left it lying on the dresser
 curled face-down
 spider waiting
 for its chance to tangle me
 in its web of sticky time.
 
 Missed its weight in minutes
 looped it back in place --
 caught up again.
 
 
 
 
 Thanks for all the good critique.  Though some lines were liked, I'm leaning toward radical simplification in hopes that ambiguity will substitute beneficially for detail.
 Hi Duke,
 
I like the edits.  Only one suggestion for the end, might give you that ambiguity you are looking for. 
bryn
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 1,187Threads: 250
 Joined: Nov 2015
 
	
	
		 (06-13-2023, 04:41 AM)brynmawr1 Wrote:  
 Hi Duke,
 
 I like the edits.  Only one suggestion for the end, might give you that ambiguity you are looking for.
 bryn
 
Hate to be defensive, but  
Nevertheless I'll think it over, especially if others agree.  Thanks!
	 
 Non-practicing atheist 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 400Threads: 58
 Joined: May 2022
 
	
	
		 (06-13-2023, 05:42 AM)dukealien Wrote:   (06-13-2023, 04:41 AM)brynmawr1 Wrote:  
 Hi Duke,
 
 I like the edits.  Only one suggestion for the end, might give you that ambiguity you are looking for.
 bryn
 Hate to be defensive, but
 Nevertheless I'll think it over, especially if others agree.  Thanks!
 Hi Duke, 
I don't think you are being defensive by explaining your thinking.  I would say two things.  First, 'caught' is caught so the 'up' seemed redundant, to me.  The second is that the 'up', for me, pushes the caught more towards the web rather than leaving it sort of 'equal' between the watch(time) and the narrator.  Either way it's a very nice poem! 
Take care, 
bryn
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 471Threads: 204
 Joined: Dec 2017
 
	
	
		 (06-11-2023, 08:19 AM)dukealien Wrote:  Wristwatch
 
 Left it lying on the dresser
 curled face-down
 spider waiting
 for its chance to tangle me
 in its web of sticky time.
 
 Missed its weight in minutes
 looped it back in place
 caught up again.
 
 
 
Upon first reading, I couldn’t square the idea of a wristwatch snaring the writer in time schedules 
I surmised that it was a smartwatch. I don’t wear one.
 
Nice conceit at the end, as others have commented.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 703Threads: 141
 Joined: Oct 2017
 
	
	
		.
Hi duke, like the latest revision.  Might you go a bit further still? Wristwatch lying face-down on the dresser curled spider  waiting for its chance to tangle me in your web  of sticky time. Missed its weight in minutes looped it back in place caught up again. I wonder if you still need these? I think the implication that N will be 'caught up again' is pretty strong. Best, Knot . 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 1,187Threads: 250
 Joined: Nov 2015
 
	
	
		Wow.  I've tried several things, and can't seem to improve on your rewrite.  Bolder images, maybe?  But without disturbing the essentials.  (06-13-2023, 09:07 PM)Knot Wrote:  .
 Hi duke, like the latest revision.  Might you go a bit further still? 
 
 Wristwatch 
 
 lying face-down on the dresser curled spider  waiting for its chance to tangle me in your web  of sticky time. 
 
 Missed its weight in minutes looped it back in place caught up again. I wonder if you still need these? I think the implication that N will be 'caught up again' is pretty strong. 
 
 Best, Knot 
 
 .
 Non-practicing atheist 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 703Threads: 141
 Joined: Oct 2017
 
	
	
		.
Hi Duke. Bolder images, maybe? But without disturbing the essentials. The only think I can think of is maybe put a little more meat on the bones of the title. My X's Wristwatch (or similar, or a name/model, something that makes it easier to visualise the timepiece?) - the images, for me, work just fine.  . Maybe it's done?  Best, Knot.. 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 438Threads: 374
 Joined: Sep 2014
 
	
	
		Wristwatch
 
 Left it lying on the dresser
 curled face-down
 spider waiting
 for its chance to tangle me
 in its web of sticky time.
 
 
 
 Don't over.
 
 
 
 Missed its weight, in minutes
 looped it back, or ; in place
 caught up again.
 
 
 "Again" optional.
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 1,187Threads: 250
 Joined: Nov 2015
 
	
	
		edit3;
 Wristwatch
 
 
 left lying curled face-down
 spider waiting
 to entangle in her steely web.
 
 Missed her touch
 looped into place
 all caught up.
 
 
 
 
 Thanks to all critics for the very fine suggestions and rewrites.  In addition to further slimming, I've incorporated the idea of personifying the watch/spider - beloved but hated constant gentle caress on the wrist.  "Relentless" considered and rejected; likewise "cosmic" for the web.  (What must pre-strap watch men have thought of having time chained across their bellies, costlier than an iPhone?)
 
 Non-practicing atheist 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 703Threads: 141
 Joined: Oct 2017
 
	
	
		.Hi Duke.
 
 
 Like the revision, though not sure it should be one poem. Wristwatch I and Wristwatch II ?
 
 
 Preferred 'sticky' to 'steely' (the 'tick' of the clock.)
 
 
 Not sure about 'looped', but no further nits.
 
 
 Nicely done.
 
 
 Best, Knot
 
 
 .
 
		
	 |