08-15-2012, 08:23 PM
Thanks guys. All of the typo catches I think are correct are correct. Yes it's supposed to be! It's one that gets by me often.
I'll come back and answer more in depth, but I 'll go ahead an answer a couple of Tom's, as several relate to colloquialisms. Hwy 180, is pronounced as Highway one-oh-eight. Also they are "Mexicans" just as people from the USA are "Americans" in certain locals. The quotes denote a certain connotation related to certain aspects of character not always associated with nationality.
"The counterpoint to banishing demons being facing your own mortality does not hang straight."
A matter of opinion. To me, an acute awareness of ones mortality, and thus impending death is the biggest psychological demon one can struggle with. Pretty much most of Hemingway's writing dealt with trying to overcome ones fear of death by confronting it. Death is a paradox in that it is on the one hand incomprehensible, and on the other as intimate as a wet tongue in the ear. Stanza one is more of a preface to the poem, as it foreshadows what is to come, and also sets the primary thesis to be dealt with. It also makes the points that any arrogance the speaker mat have had at one time due to conquering his demons exists no more. It also acknowledges that the solution to this death problem will have to come from something more than himself, as well as drawing the parallel between the speaker and the father both sharing this same weakness. That is to say, they are both only small boys whistling at the dark in order to keep their courage up. This to me is a matter endemic with men in western society, that is the inability to admit the panic and overpowering fear when confronted with death and the absolute weakness and ego deflation this engenders, and it is only through the female side that the male may be guided to a workable solution so that the fear and panic does not come to dominate his life. It is not surprising that men rarely last long past the death of their wives, yet women seem quite capable of continuing on with their spouse.
It may be quite possible that as Leanne says that this stanza (1) could be done away with completely, however I do feel that it has certain merits that maybe you have overlooked, or not understood. Please however, rebut me as you will, I am quite capable of getting attached to something that serves no useful function, and if that is the case I will be more than happy to excise it.
Have to run now. I will come back and address your comments in more details. Oh yes, Billy thank you for pointing out multiple "panics", I quite agree it is an over usage.
Dale
I'll come back and answer more in depth, but I 'll go ahead an answer a couple of Tom's, as several relate to colloquialisms. Hwy 180, is pronounced as Highway one-oh-eight. Also they are "Mexicans" just as people from the USA are "Americans" in certain locals. The quotes denote a certain connotation related to certain aspects of character not always associated with nationality.
"The counterpoint to banishing demons being facing your own mortality does not hang straight."
A matter of opinion. To me, an acute awareness of ones mortality, and thus impending death is the biggest psychological demon one can struggle with. Pretty much most of Hemingway's writing dealt with trying to overcome ones fear of death by confronting it. Death is a paradox in that it is on the one hand incomprehensible, and on the other as intimate as a wet tongue in the ear. Stanza one is more of a preface to the poem, as it foreshadows what is to come, and also sets the primary thesis to be dealt with. It also makes the points that any arrogance the speaker mat have had at one time due to conquering his demons exists no more. It also acknowledges that the solution to this death problem will have to come from something more than himself, as well as drawing the parallel between the speaker and the father both sharing this same weakness. That is to say, they are both only small boys whistling at the dark in order to keep their courage up. This to me is a matter endemic with men in western society, that is the inability to admit the panic and overpowering fear when confronted with death and the absolute weakness and ego deflation this engenders, and it is only through the female side that the male may be guided to a workable solution so that the fear and panic does not come to dominate his life. It is not surprising that men rarely last long past the death of their wives, yet women seem quite capable of continuing on with their spouse.
It may be quite possible that as Leanne says that this stanza (1) could be done away with completely, however I do feel that it has certain merits that maybe you have overlooked, or not understood. Please however, rebut me as you will, I am quite capable of getting attached to something that serves no useful function, and if that is the case I will be more than happy to excise it.
Have to run now. I will come back and address your comments in more details. Oh yes, Billy thank you for pointing out multiple "panics", I quite agree it is an over usage.
Dale
How long after picking up the brush, the first masterpiece?
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.
The goal is not to obfuscate that which is clear, but make clear that which isn't.