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		It ends with death,starts with life.
 Alexis, why did you hold my
 hand at prom?
 
 Dancing there we were,
 I, more stoned than drunk
 blissful in our last farewell.
 Down you went falling
 to the sounds of bells.
 
 I found myself soon there after in a church
 full of prayers. You can't go to hell,
 alexis. I love you.
 
 Why? Did you have to
 be drunk?
 
 Why? Did you have to sit next to
 Jake and I in art class?
 
 Why? Did i fall in love.
 
 And why was I on the side lines,
 at your funeral.
 
 Why? Suicide?
 
 Every word my breath
 breathes;
 is for you babe.
 
 Why?
 
 Why, was I in a Christian band,
 because of that we could not hold hands,
 back then.
 
 Even though you saw me,
 and wrapped those fingers,
 in mine.
 
 Why?
 
 Does everyone think
 you are my angel.
 I don't fucking know,
 what heaven is.
 
 Babe, sometime's on the Zi.
 I could not wait to die. just
 at the thought of seeing.
 you being there.
 
 Your golden brown hair.
 
 Why?
 
 Did I not grab you that night and say.
 Please Alexis, PLEASE!!
 be my girlfriend.
 
 Love,
 killed.
 you.
 the,
 end.
 
 Sincerely yours in life,
 Robert Thomas Cave.
 
 PS, i still cry
 
Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet.--mark twain
 Bunx
 
 
		
	 
	
	
		I like this poem. But I'm in no mood for Serious critiquing at the moment. I plan on coming back. I'm bad with plans though. But I think I'll make it back.
 I still get connections with d a levy. Maybe you were meant to like him. As example:
 
 1.
 i sit down next to her
 & our toes begin a love dance
 
 i think
 how beautiful
 her dark smile
 her brown skin
 & i touch her arms
 her belly
 our legs touch
 & i realize i
 want to see my white hand
 on her dark breasts
 and i cant do it
 
 i try but my eyes
 disappear
 & all i can see
 is beverly, beverly
 tired & laying next to me
 
 i get very confused
 i dont really want to do
 anything but be next to her
 
 my hand touching
 the small of her back
 
 i cant do anything
 except think love thoughts
 to her & flash lights in my
 head & wonder if she can
 hear me loving her
 
 2
 in the 9 dimensional
 collapseable universe
 waiting for some one to
 do it
 
 i ask her what
 she really wants
 
 she knows!
 
 she wants security
 
 & i am so old and silly
 in my need
 i tell her the truth
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		that poem is beautiful. thanks for the comment rowens. my experience with this girl was shortly lived....and sadly missed
 rowens, new version at the top. thanks man.
 
Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet.--mark twain
 Bunx
 
 
		
	 
	
	
		It ends with death,starts with life.
 Alexis, why did you hold my
 hand at prom?
 
 Why? Did you have to
 be drunk?
 
 Why? Did you have to sit next to
 Jake and I in art class?
 
 Why? Did i fall in love.
 
 The first question mark after the Why in all those lines emphasize the Why, so it can work like that. And I don't read it as simply, Why did you have to be drunk?
 Though you left out the question mark in the last line there. And sometimes you have I and other times i.
 
 
 
 
 
 And why was I on the side lines,
 at your funeral.
 
 
 You don't really need the comma, but it's not a problem.
 
 
 Why? Suicide?
 
 Every word my breath
 breathes;
 is for you babe.
 
 Here the semicolon is more of a problem. Grammar-wise. Though I hear the musical pause that it creates.
 
 
 Why?
 
 Why, was I in a Christian band,
 
 Here though the comma is really in the way. Maybe your two question marks you used in earlier lines could fix that.
 
 because of that we could not hold hands,
 back then.
 
 Even though you saw me,
 and wrapped those fingers,
 in mine.
 
 Don't need the comma after fingers.
 
 and wrapped those fingers
 in mine
 
 work without it.
 
 Why?
 
 Does everyone think
 you are my angel.
 
 Do you want a question mark?
 
 I don't fucking know,
 what heaven is.
 
 I don't fucking know
 what heaven is.
 
 Works without a comma.
 
 
 But if this is heaven
 
 You could have a comma here, after heaven.
 
 I am an angel.
 but,
 
 But, capital after the period.
 
 such
 heaven could never
 exist.
 
 Babe, sometime's on the Zi.
 I could not wait to die. just
 at the thought of seeing.
 you being there.
 
 The periods are messy here.
 
 Your golden brown hair.
 
 Why?
 
 Did I not grab you that night and say.
 
 Better a comma than a period.
 
 Please Alexis, PLEASE!!
 be my girlfriend.
 
 Love,
 killed.
 you.
 the,
 end.
 
 The commas aren't needed.
 
 Sincerely yours in life,
 Robert Thomas Cave.
 
 PS, i still cry
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Not very frequently does reading a poem really evoke an emotional reaction in me.. But this did and I thank you for that. Beautifully written, it doesn't seem like you had to think about this poem. It seems natural to me, like it has been in you and it was just time for it to come out. Thanks for sharing. Looking toward to more!
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Hi Rob, 
I'm going to deal with the poem, and not the real life situation behind it. Not meaning this to come across as callous mostly just looking at how to make the poem stronger (in my opinion). Here are some comments for you:
 
First off the title, an Ode follows a certain format. This isn't an ode. I'd consider changing the title just to correct that.
  (05-24-2013, 12:52 AM)Bunx Wrote:  It ends with death,starts with life.--I think you're missing an opportunitity here. I would consider reversing the ideas: It starts with death, ends with life. Ending with death is what we would assume. Working against that assumption would help you. In a way, the death is what starts this. The life that goes on from that point is a sort of ending. I think the reversal would bring more interest to the phrasing
 Alexis, why did you hold my--You may want to mess with your line breaks a bit here. I'm going to suggest doing a line break after you each time you have it phrased this way. The question the narrator wants to know is why did you kill yourself. The hesitation and the switch to the other questions is how he deals with the pain. So in this instance I would move "hold my" down to the next line with "hand at the prom"
 hand at prom?
 
 Why? Did you have to
 be drunk?
 
 Why? Did you have to sit next to
 Jake and I in art class?--Obviously, I'm suggesting the line break. I would also cut and I from the construction. It's not as much about being true to the facts, but being true to what is more emotional.
 
 Why? Did i fall in love.--Capitalize the I
 
 And why was I on the side lines,--something stronger than this. Dig deeper. The speaker knows why so go a few layers below this observation
 at your funeral.
 
 Why? Suicide?
 
 Every word my breath
 breathes;
 is for you babe.--Maybe cut the semicolon and the "for you babe" bring the is up a line and repeat the refrain with the why
 
 Why? --after this why, I'd drop the why's and shift to more of the anger
 
 Why, was I in a Christian band,
 because of that we could not hold hands,
 back then.--shorten this to "we could not hold hands back then"
 
 Even though you saw me,--don't think you need "saw me"
 and wrapped those fingers,--you could cut and and substitute your for those
 in mine.
 
 Why?
 
 Does everyone think--Maybe simply "Everyone thinks"
 you are my angel.
 I don't fucking know,--maybe lead this line in with an "and"
 what heaven is.
 
 But if this is heaven
 I am an angel.
 but,
 such
 heaven could never
 exist.--this strophe feels oddly constructed.
 
 Babe, sometime's on the Zi.
 I could not wait to die. just--I would try to make this a bit more universal with "sometimes I cannot wait to die"
 at the thought of seeing.
 you being there.--Maybe tighten some "thinking of seeing you there
 
 Your golden brown hair.--like this detail
 
 Why?--cut at this point
 
 Did I not grab you that night and say.
 Please Alexis, PLEASE!!
 be my girlfriend.--Tighten this into something a layer of two deeper. This is where you think you could hold her back from the decision
 
 Love,
 killed.
 you.
 the,
 end.--Is this: Love killed you. The End
 
 or, Love killed you in the end
 
 The punctuation needs to be smoothed out. I prefer the second option but either actually work.
 
 Sincerely yours in life,
 Robert Thomas Cave.
 
 PS, i still cry
 
There is probably more to say, but it will come out in the edits.
 
Best,
 
Todd
	
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		[quote='Bunx' pid='127682' dateline='1369324329']It ends with life
 ends in death.
 
 Alexis, why did you hold my
 hand at prom?
 
 Why, Did you have to
 be drunk?
 
 Why, did you have to sit next to
 Jake and I in art class?
 
 Why did rob fall in love.
 
 And why was i on the side lines
 at your funeral.
 
 Why, Suicide?
 
 Every word my breath
 breathes
 is for you babe.
 
 Why?
 
 Why was I always in a Christian band;
 because of that we could not hold hands
 back then.
 
 Even though you saw me
 then wrapped those fingers
 in mine.
 
 Why?
 
 Does everyone think
 you are my angel.
 I don't fucking know.
 what is heaven?
 
 Hell and heaven
 exists here.
 
 Miss i wish i could say
 that your glorified death,
 was a dance where I
 could play.
 
 I'd sing. I miss you
 so much Alexis; I'd swear
 i would cry.
 Alexis remember me
 before you die.
 
 Babe, sometime's on the Zi.
 i could not wait to die. Just
 at the thought of seeing.
 You being there.
 
 Your golden brown hair.
 
 Why?
 
 Did I not grab you that night and say.
 Please Alexis, PLEASE!!
 be my girlfriend.
 
 Love,
 killed
 you.
 the,
 end.
 
 Sincerely yours in life,
 Robert Thomas Cave.
 
 PS, i still cry
 
 [quote='Bunx' pid='127682' dateline='1369324329']
 
 Song for her,
 It ends with life
 ends in death.
 
 Alexis, why did you hold my
 hand at prom?
 
 Why, Did you have to
 be drunk?
 
 Why, did you have to sit next to
 Jake and I in art class?
 
 Why did rob fall in love.
 
 And why was i on the side lines
 at your funeral.
 
 Why, Suicide?
 
 Every word my breath
 breathes
 is for you babe.
 
 Why?
 
 Why was I always in a Christian band;
 because of that we could not hold hands
 back then.
 
 Even though you saw me
 then wrapped those fingers
 in mine.
 
 Why?
 
 Does everyone think
 you are my angel.
 I don't fucking know.
 what is heaven?
 
 Hell and heaven
 exists here.
 
 Miss i wish i could say
 that your glorified death,
 was a dance where I
 could play.
 
 I'd sing. I miss you
 so much Alexis; I'd swear
 i would cry.
 Alexis remember me
 before you die.
 
 Babe, sometime's on the Zi.
 i could not wait to die. Just
 at the thought of seeing.
 You being there.
 
 Your golden brown hair.
 
 Why?
 
 Did I not grab you that night and say.
 Please Alexis, PLEASE!!
 be my girlfriend.
 
 Love,
 killed
 you.
 the,
 end.
 
 Sincerely yours in life,
 Robert Thomas Cave.
 
 PS, i still cry
 
Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet.--mark twain
 Bunx
 
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		It ends with life andstarts with death.
 Alexis, why did you hold my
 hand at prom?
 
 Why, Did you have to
 be drunk?
 
 Why? Did you have to sit next to
 Jake and I in art class?
 
 Why did i fall in love.
 
 And why was I on the side lines,
 at your funeral.
 
 Standing in a packed church
 with people on the lawn.
 
 Why? Suicide.
 Every word my breath
 breathes;
 is for you babe.
 
 Why?
 
 Why, was I in a Christian band?
 Because of that, we could not hold hands
 back then.
 
 Even though you saw me,
 and wrapped those fingers
 in mine.
 
 Why?
 
 Does everyone think
 you are my angel.
 I don't fucking know,
 what heaven is.
 
 Heaven is this i guess.
 People putting on a hobos
 vest, saying thank you.
 Simply because
 you are cold.
 
 Babe, sometime's on the Zi
 i could not wait to die. just
 at the thought of seeing.
 you.
 
 Your golden brown hair.
 
 Why?
 
 Did I not grab you that night and say.
 Please Alexis, PLEASE!!
 be my girlfriend.
 
 Love,
 killed.
 you.
 the,
 end.
 
 Sincerely yours in life,
 Robert Thomas Cave.
 
 PS, i still cry
 
Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet.--mark twain
 Bunx
 
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
	Posts: 340Threads: 204
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		 (05-24-2013, 12:52 AM)Bunx Wrote:  It ends with death,starts with life.
 Alexis, why did you hold my
 hand at prom?
 
 Dancing there we were,
 stoned than drunk
 blissful in our last farewell.
 Down you went falling
 to the sounds of bells.
 
 I found myself soon ther after in a church
 full of prayers. You can't go to hell,
 alexis. I love you.
 
 Why? Did you have to
 be drunk?
 
 Why? Did you have to sit next to
 Jake and I in art class?
 
 Why? Did i fall in love.
 
 And why was I on the side lines,
 at your funeral.
 
 Why? Suicide?
 
 Every word my breath
 breathes;
 is for you babe.
 
 Why?
 
 Why, was I in a Christian band,
 because of that we could not hold hands,
 back then.
 
 Even though you saw me,
 and wrapped those fingers,
 in mine.
 
 Why?
 
 Does everyone think
 you are my angel.
 I don't fucking know,
 what heaven is.
 
 Babe, sometime's on the Zi.
 I could not wait to die. just
 at the thought of seeing.
 you being there.
 
 Your golden brown hair.
 
 Why?
 
 Did I not grab you that night and say.
 Please Alexis, PLEASE!!
 be my girlfriend.
 
 Love,
 killed.
 you.
 the,
 end.
 
 Sincerely yours in life,
 Robert Thomas Cave.
 
 PS, i still cry
 
 
  (05-24-2013, 12:52 AM)Bunx Wrote:  It ends with death,starts with life.
 Alexis, why did you hold my
 hand at prom?
 
 Why? Did you have to
 be drunk?
 
 Why? Did you have to sit next to
 Jake and I in art class?
 
 Why? Did i fall in love.
 
 And why was I on the side lines,
 at your funeral.
 
 Why? Suicide?
 
 Every word my breath
 breathes;
 is for you babe.
 
 Why?
 
 Why, was I in a Christian band,
 because of that we could not hold hands
 back then.
 
 Even though you saw me,
 and wrapped those fingers,
 in mine.
 
 Why?
 
 Does everyone think
 you are my angel.
 I don't fucking know,
 what heaven is.
 
 But if this is heaven
 I am an angel.
 but,
 such
 heaven could never
 exist.
 
 Babe, sometime's on the Zi
 i could not wait to die. just
 at the thought of seeing.
 you.
 
 Your golden brown hair.
 
 Why?
 
 Did I not grab you that night and say.
 Please Alexis, PLEASE!!
 be my girlfriend.
 
 Love,
 killed.
 you.
 the,
 end.
 
 Sincerely yours in life,
 Robert Thomas Cave.
 
 PS, i still cry
 Alexis Jake and I were best friends. Jake eventually went on to date my only love. Me and jake are still closer than me and Kaci. augg sorry about this downer.
 
Only one thing is impossible for God: To find any sense in any copyright law on the planet.--mark twain
 Bunx
 
 
		
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