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(09-27-2026, 02:55 AM)wasellajam Wrote:  
(09-27-2026, 02:03 AM)Luckieman Wrote:  I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't idolise beavers. They're trying to (supposedly re-)introduce them into the wild here in England. I don't think they have a clue.

Ugh, so destructive, that’s why they don’t let us relocate them.  Anyway, all the years I’ve lived here they’ve lived in their own houses way down the end of the lake where there are no houses, occasionally showing up and taking some trees. Two years ago they must have kicked one out and he moved into my neighbor’s stone wall. Then under my deck, we could hear him gnawing. We got rid of him with a radio playing 24/7 but last spring he returned with a wife and babes. She wasn’t happy when we opened it up so they moved. Now back. ugh
From the rondelet practice thread:

Two Time Loser

He’s evicted
from his beaver lodge, rejected.
He’s evicted,
where he’d move was unpredicted.
Under deckboards trash collected
next his gnawing sound detected-
he’s evicted.

Hysterical
 That's nice, but I read 'rodent' instead of ' rondelet' in your intro!
"Whenever you see reference to a new paradigm you should always, under all circumstances, take cover" J. K. Galbraith, The Observer, 21 June 1998
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(09-27-2026, 03:05 AM)Luckieman Wrote:  
(09-27-2026, 02:55 AM)wasellajam Wrote:  
(09-27-2026, 02:03 AM)Luckieman Wrote:  I'm glad I'm not the only one who doesn't idolise beavers. They're trying to (supposedly re-)introduce them into the wild here in England. I don't think they have a clue.

Ugh, so destructive, that’s why they don’t let us relocate them.  Anyway, all the years I’ve lived here they’ve lived in their own houses way down the end of the lake where there are no houses, occasionally showing up and taking some trees. Two years ago they must have kicked one out and he moved into my neighbor’s stone wall. Then under my deck, we could hear him gnawing. We got rid of him with a radio playing 24/7 but last spring he returned with a wife and babes. She wasn’t happy when we opened it up so they moved. Now back. ugh
From the rondelet practice thread:

Two Time Loser

He’s evicted
from his beaver lodge, rejected.
He’s evicted,
where he’d move was unpredicted.
Under deckboards trash collected
next his gnawing sound detected-
he’s evicted.

Hysterical
 That's nice, but I read 'rodent' instead of ' rondelet' in your intro!

Hysterical Hysterical We have those threads too.
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We will not be tolerating any beaver hate. They are industrious and adorable.
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They are a marvel of evolution and tree loss is the price of living lakeside but eating my dock supports is a step to far, or too close. Sort of like when the raccoon came in the cat door, gotta draw the line somewhere.
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Beavers are easy to idolize - they have so many of the best human characteristics, like family, shaping their environment to suit themselves, and industriousness. If they'd figured out fire, we'd be working for them.
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(09-28-2026, 03:40 AM)dukealien Wrote:  Beavers are easy to idolize - they have so many of the best human characteristics, like family, shaping their environment to suit themselves, and industriousness.  If they'd figured out fire, we'd be working for them.

They have and more, being four dimensional projections into our world of higher dimensional beings, to recall Douglas Adams
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A deer broke into my tiny orchard last year and ringbarked a couple of newly planted rare variety trees about a metre from the ground, which has set me back at least a couple more years to replace them. I like deer - they're lovely animals, but I'm not enamoured of some of their habits. I also admire wolves, but only at a distance.
"Whenever you see reference to a new paradigm you should always, under all circumstances, take cover" J. K. Galbraith, The Observer, 21 June 1998
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This thread turned into a furry convention.
feedback award wae aye man ye radgie
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(09-28-2026, 02:38 PM)Luckieman Wrote:  A deer broke into my tiny orchard last year and ringbarked a couple of newly planted rare variety trees about a metre from the ground, which has set me back at least a couple more years to replace them. I like deer - they're lovely animals, but I'm not enamoured of some of their habits. I also admire wolves, but only at a distance.

I get confused about your whereabouts 
How do you get deer in your orchard in the UK unless you’re lord emsworth of blandings castle?
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Following a bot, I stumbled upon this strange but beautiful poem from 2010:

https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-1051.html
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(10-06-2026, 07:42 PM)busker Wrote:  
(09-28-2026, 02:38 PM)Luckieman Wrote:  A deer broke into my tiny orchard last year and ringbarked a couple of newly planted rare variety trees about a metre from the ground, which has set me back at least a couple more years to replace them. I like deer - they're lovely animals, but I'm not enamoured of some of their habits. I also admire wolves, but only at a distance.

I get confused about your whereabouts 
How do you get deer in your orchard in the UK unless you’re lord emsworth of blandings castle?

Luckieman may answer on their own, but do you think no fruit is grown in the UK? No apple cider? I would think there are still spaces outside the cities for orchards.

(10-07-2026, 02:38 AM)busker Wrote:  Following a bot, I stumbled upon this strange but beautiful poem from 2010:

https://www.pigpenpoetry.com/thread-1051.html

Thanks! I lol at S1 and really enjoyed the attempted escape. Good one, thanks for sharing it.
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(10-07-2026, 03:10 AM)wasellajam Wrote:  
(10-06-2026, 07:42 PM)busker Wrote:  
(09-28-2026, 02:38 PM)Luckieman Wrote:  A deer broke into my tiny orchard last year and ringbarked a couple of newly planted rare variety trees about a metre from the ground, which has set me back at least a couple more years to replace them. I like deer - they're lovely animals, but I'm not enamoured of some of their habits. I also admire wolves, but only at a distance.

I get confused about your whereabouts 
How do you get deer in your orchard in the UK unless you’re lord emsworth of blandings castle?

Luckieman may answer on their own, but do you think no fruit is grown in the UK? No apple cider? I would think there are still spaces outside the cities for orchards.

[...]

There's a couple of large 'estates' and open commons in the region, inhabited by muntjack and red deer, and they occasionally jump the fence. And my orchard is indeed tiny (a dozen trees plus some developing in containers). I locate apple trees in the wild, try them, have them DNA tested and propagated, so losing a tree sets things back a long time.
"Whenever you see reference to a new paradigm you should always, under all circumstances, take cover" J. K. Galbraith, The Observer, 21 June 1998
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(10-07-2026, 03:56 AM)Luckieman Wrote:  
(10-07-2026, 03:10 AM)wasellajam Wrote:  
(10-06-2026, 07:42 PM)busker Wrote:  I get confused about your whereabouts 
How do you get deer in your orchard in the UK unless you’re lord emsworth of blandings castle?

Luckieman may answer on their own, but do you think no fruit is grown in the UK? No apple cider? I would think there are still spaces outside the cities for orchards.

[...]

There's a couple of large 'estates' and open commons in the region, inhabited by muntjack and red deer, and they occasionally jump the fence. And my orchard is indeed tiny (a dozen trees plus some developing in containers). I locate apple trees in the wild, try them, have them DNA tested and propagated, so losing a tree sets things back a long time.

You might try chicken wire or hardware cloth around the trunks. Here we need a six foot fence to guard a garden.
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(10-07-2026, 03:10 AM)wasellajam Wrote:  Luckieman may answer on their own, but do you think no fruit is grown in the UK? No apple cider? I would think there are still spaces outside the cities for orchards.

A recreational orchard is still a luxury
From Luckieman’s answer, I suspect he’s not a huge fan of the UK Greens and doesn’t reddit-post  “Why can’t I buy a house on a tradesman’s apprentice salary like my great grandpa did in Perth c. 1926”?
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