windy weather: Haiku:

[billy]

a sudden gust
catches my wheelie bin--
the bus driver wakes up

[grannyjill]

Hang on a minute - the ONLY thing I know about Haiku is the syllables go like this

5, 7, 5

this one is 4, 6, 6

I've been short changed and the gain of a syllable on the last line won't compensate me for that!

[billy]

yes you have. it's scandalous.
575 should be used as a guide. the season and cut and lack of poetic device are the most important parts.
i put a link to basho up in another haiku. he's in the text poetry forums at the bottom of the home page, he's written some fantastic haiku
with 2,4,5 syls

[grannyjill]

I thought basho was the ring in which they did the Sumo wrestling - it shows how little I know about anything Japanese.

But, the problem is, you see...I need rules, I like to think that I've managed to do something right. So, if the rules are being broken all over the place, (even if not by me)- it's like some-one stealing my blue-blanket. (Any way just 'cos Basho breaks the rules doesn't mean us English speakers can do so, too)

And before you say it - I do not have OCD or whatever they call it.

(I don't know what this means...text forum at the bottom of the home page)

[billy]

actually we created a set of rules to help us cope with not being able to properly translate Japanese poetry.
in japanese the 575 rule doesn't exist. and the basho is a is also something to do with sumo, i think it's what the schools are called
writing the 575 rule down was the worst thing they did because now many people don't know whether to hop skip or jump