I'm not a great poet or anything...
#1
hi jess, first off, thanks for leaving feedback on someone elses poem Smile

i see a lot or poets add white space between their lines of poetry, often as in this case, i don't think it helps. white space in poetry is a tool that's used to give pause or emphasis. best to keep the lines closer together and wehn you need to make something stand out you can use the white space of a blank line or two. if poetry was measured by how good it was, most would be deemed very bad Big Grin. so get out of the habit of trying to quantify how good it is, just aim to do the best you can and strive to do better Smile

remember how we both said (in our reply to another poem) the poem felt familiar? this suffers from the smae problem. a lot of the phrases are common and have been used since the beginning of poetry(such a phrase is called a cliche)
you have a good line to work round,

I just can’t cope with so much nothingness
if you make it less wordy
I can’t cope with nothingness it becomes stronger, maybe strong enough to begin the poem. get rid of the maybe's and just's and the and's that don't add anything.
And now I’m looking for the exit door
could become
where's the exit? pick out the good lines and make them better, then grow the poem around those. if you need help, ask a question in the discussion forum or ask a mod that's listed in the poetry section.

it feels disheartening but all of us start off without knowing how to do it. Big Grin



(12-11-2012, 11:29 AM)jess527 Wrote:  I'm just wondering if this is any good at all... Smile


Maybe this was because of you

I just didn’t know what else to do

Maybe it’s come down to this

I just can’t cope with so much nothingness

Maybe I can’t pretend anymore

And now I’m looking for the exit door

But I won’t tell anyone

That you were my everything

That you were my sun

And they won’t see my cry tonight

I know I’m strong enough to fight

And if even I’m not,

My tears won’t change a thing

And all I have are sad lyrics to sing

I’ll sing them for you,

but you’ll never hear

You’ll never be that near

So all I can do

Is write this poem for you

Even though you’ll never see

Just how much you mean to me

It’ll be over, I keep telling myself

I’ll put these feelings back on the shelf

I’ll be ok, I’ll be just fine

Even if you’re never mine
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#2
Hi Jess, welcome to the site!

Well, the honest answer is it needs some work. That's true of most poems actually though Wink so you're in good company. The lines that are just statements like the first two lines for example are not what you want to do. Many poets free write and have a lot of these statements initially in their work. The trick is finding the evocative interesting stuff and chipping away all the bland, unnecessary stuff. It's just like the sculptor seeing the statue in the block of marble. The statue is made of marble certainly, but while it remains in the block it isn't anything special.

So when I read your poem I'm looking for the interesting phrases and imagery to build around. For me it was these lines:

I just can’t cope with so much nothingness

That you were my sun

And all I have are sad lyrics to sing
I’ll sing them for you,


I like the idea of so much nothingness. While you are my sun or you are my everything is a bit too familiar in that its been done before, I like that you're reaching for a concrete image. It's something you should consider doing more.

The singing also have some potential to explore.

There's nothing wrong with rhyme, but I would suggest focusing on getting your content and imagery where you need it first and then reintroducing the rhyme. I'm concerned mostly that you don't limit yourself to certain words while your establishing what you need to say.

Just some thoughts...again, welcome nice to have you here.

Best,

Todd
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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#3
(12-11-2012, 11:29 AM)jess527 Wrote:  I'm just wondering if this is any good at all... Smile


Maybe this was because of you

I just didn’t know what else to do

Maybe it’s come down to this

I just can’t cope with so much nothingness

Maybe I can’t pretend anymore

And now I’m looking for the exit door

But I won’t tell anyone

That you were my everything

That you were my sun

And they won’t see my cry tonight

I know I’m strong enough to fight

And if even I’m not,

My tears won’t change a thing

And all I have are sad lyrics to sing

I’ll sing them for you,

but you’ll never hear

You’ll never be that near

So all I can do

Is write this poem for you

Even though you’ll never see

Just how much you mean to me

It’ll be over, I keep telling myself

I’ll put these feelings back on the shelf

I’ll be ok, I’ll be just fine

Even if you’re never mine
How are things mate. Just to let you know I'm at an early stage of writting poetry my self, so take anything I say with a pinch of salt. But how I feel with this sort of poem the lines and imagery need to be sharp and direct. I find if they get to long you tend to lose the emostional impact. I would reccommend saying the words aloud and see if you feel their impact.
I do hope this is helpful. Good look and keep writting.
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#4
Hi Jess. My novice opinion is that it's a little wordy. I tend towards the wordy myself but the best poems, in my opinion, are strong and concise. It seems that your poem has a strong personal message so I'm imagining that you can reach a little deeper and perhaps be a little less cliche. Definitely could use some imagery and I agree with Todd that it seems more like statements strung together. The use of rhyme is also interesting but it doesn't seem to follow a pattern. It's definitely okay to deviate from the rhyming norm but it's a bit all over the place. Lastly, I would make it single spaced and separate into stanzas. Good work, though! Please keep writing.
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#5
Read through the edit Jess and the flow is a lot better. I may come back with some more comments but one simple comment I saw on the first read.

Line 18: So I can't tell anyone

I think it would work better if you substituted the I with a they.
The secret of poetry is cruelty.--Jon Anderson
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#6
wow jess,
big difference. still needs work but you're right, it's a different poem and it reads much better. i'd suggest putting singular lines in italics. i think you could cut out some small words Cuz being one of them, (there are more) removing them would make it even better. so far the edit you did is excellent. don't forget to give it a title. Wink don't forget to ask for help if you want it or if you're not sure of anything. Smile

(12-15-2012, 10:09 AM)jess527 Wrote:  Ok so I completely rewrote it and it's not really even the same poem anymore but this is what I have now:

I can’t cope with nothingness
So I take another shot
now my thoughts are in disarray
Finally it’s come down to this
I wanna go far today

Another shot

Success- I’m on the floor
And I don’t care what they say
Cuz I can’t pretend anymore
That there’s anything else I can do
Now that I realize
You’re a hopeless dream to pursue.

Dark clouds are coming now
So I’ll let these words drown
In the deafening rain
Because I know
They won't understand my pain
So they can’t tell anyone
That you were my sun
And I can’t explain
The things that I’ve done.
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#7
You certainly dealt with difficulties in the edit addressing issues such as superfluous words and rhyme pattern. Perhaps you could turn your attention to rhythm now, make sure the reader is drawn/encouraged into reading the poem as you would like him to (you can never 'force' that but you can 'lead'). You can convey your sadness effectively with careful punctuation, line length and syllable count etc. This piece has gone a long way in a short space .
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