trait that creative geniuses often share

[milo]

It gauged public approval over anything else, which is probably the worst way to judge creativity. We know from history, at least once past the nobility sponsored days, that people who would become known universally as great artist were passed over hundreds of times until someone with vision discovered them. The public in general and publications cater to the paying public, want what is familiar, they do not want anything that will make their brain hurt. To ask about winning awards is ludicrous. I've won every contest I've entered that was anonymous, that is the judges did not know who submitted the poem, and I have never won a contest where the person's name was known. I'm not complaining or tooting my own horn (the competition was not that daunting), I'm just saying that such things are generally judge from a political point of view. Any halfway intelligent person can win a contest by playing to the judges interests, basically the same is true about getting published. I don't care if you've written the best sonnet that has ever been written, if you try to enter it in a nationally prestigious poetry magazine that never accepts formal poetry, then you will not be accepted. If you are recognized in your community as a poet, then your either a suck up, an over-praiser of the things of your community, or a sentimentalist, none of which requires much poetic talent, or knowledge of poetry. All you need be able to do is turn out some tripe on a moments notice praising your state, statehood and it's 2000ths birthday, or bring a tear to the eye because little Mary Sue, who was stricken with Polio (because her parents decided not to vaccinate her) just won the hog calling contest.
And you are right, the person reporting this, or maybe channeling this, did a piss poor job and could not in any way be call journalism.
Anyway, thanks for doing the footwork that the writer evidently didn't. I make a promise never to post an article while under the influence of fever.  

Dale      

I agree and, actually, I am glad you posted it.  One of the more enjoyable things I do is argue . . .

[Leanne]

You do other things? Gosh you keep secrets well.

[milo]

You do other things?  Gosh you keep secrets well.

[rayheinrich]

But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do engender strifes. - Timothy 2:23

[Erthona]

MantaRay,

What? You have something against the gender of strife? Without strife and discord we'd still be sitting in our cave pounding our meat. Today I use Adolf's All Purpose Greek Seasoning and Tenderizer, it gets your meat soft without so much pounding and it makes it taste just as good or better. I have found the occasional lady friend likes it better this way because she does not have to break a sweat helping you to beat your meat. So it's a win-win. I say, yeah for the the gender of strife. Besides when did you start basing your life on the Bible? Pretty strange behavior for a Texican (aka Texian) communist, from the great state of Tejas! Your right paw, the tractor never will replace the cow!

"Gender strifes breed arguments!" Timidity 1:2 The Bible according to Tharmas Erthona 

One for Ray.

"Love your neighbor when her husband's away." Ax of the Postals 6:9



dale

[rayheinrich]

Erthonatopia:

They shall all be damned who believe not the truth, but have pleasure* in unrighteousness. - Thessalonians 2:12


*In Texicanopolis, even the communists are Baptists.

[Erthona]

All women are like fine instruments: they should all be played* and often. - Thelonious Monk 6/8


* but not danced, even  Thelonious Monks are Baptist when in Tejas!


daletonic

[rayheinrich]

Earthakitsky:

Actually it's the Stalinists who're the Baptists.
Us Trotskyites posed as Unitarian Universalists.
Unfortunately, 'wine and cheese' and 'vodka and kholodets' are readily discernible.
The only reason I'm alive today is that I turned my mother in (bourgeois filth that she was).

[Erthona]

RayNitschke,

I guess you didn't make any money from it, that would be too much like a capitalist and make them suspicious. Too bad, you only have one mother. Of course myself I was adopted and so had no mother/father, brother/sister, aunt/uncle to turn in. As a result I didn't have any money to start with and I still don't.

Now what was this thread about? Creative types? Always thought that Coltrane I and II were fairly creative fonts or types, however you want to say it. I prefer typeface myself. Hows abouts yew?

DaleRay

[rayheinrich]

Dalonio:

Money?
"For money you need feet." - Ilsky Navrynot

One mother? Well, truth be told, I have two.
And no, not in a sociological text, but a generic one.

'Creative', as you have amply stated, observed, and milled
about with various, sundry, and a few others, is an organic
mulch of ideals that, when reduced by highly evolved
metaphorical 'bacteria', is useful to plant ideas in, but
not to consummate them.

Typeface?

Little has been ascribed to Persaeus regarding this; but,
as a humble catechumen of his great wisdom, I can but assure
you that had Gutenberg been aware of such as this, the
Christian biblical canons would have finished a poor second.

As sincere as ever,
yours primevally,
Raymodicum

[Erthona]

In Praise of RayKatmandoodoo,

It is with ever widening eyes
and eyebrows raised to the skies,
I bow before you oh so wise
for if you are naught,
you are nothing.
I praise you for your new retold
if not so bold, historical catechism.
I praise your deep Cro-Magnon eyes,
that look to spy some wisdomism,
yet only manage to hypnotize,
those with no wisdom in 'em.
Still, it is not your granditude
causing me to revisit food
as I am sure it was nothing so crude,
just something spoiled I ate.
 

dale the oblique

[rayheinrich]

98% pure creativity:

[Erthona]

Chance that!

[rayheinrich]

Chance that!

I neglected to mention that:

...
I praise your deep Cro-Magnon eyes,
that look to spy some wisdomism,
yet only manage to hypnotize,
those with no wisdom in 'em.
...

Rhyming "wisdomism" and "wisdom in 'em" is SO cool!

[Erthona]

Yeah, right. That was just a quick throw off, I grabbed what I could. I should get points for creative word usage.





dale

[rayheinrich]

Yeah, right. That was just a quick throw off, I grabbed what I could. I should get points for creative word usage.
dale

"just a quick throw off"

Leanne does this too.
Compliment her on something she wrote and she invariably says... "Oh, this? I made it up in 3 seconds."

"The direct mark of hubris is the denigration of any who dare to praise." - Agnes Macphail

Ok, a bit harsh, but you get the idea. Maybe a good discussion topic.

[Erthona]

However I actually did write it on this page in response to you and it probably did take less than 5 minutes (I'm slower than Leanne, it always takes me at least a minute or three...unless I'm in a hurry). Also, yours was not a compliment. Unless

"Rhyming "wisdomism" and "wisdom in 'em" is SO cool!"

isn't sarcasm. It is hard to see this as a compliment as it is not difficult to make up a word to rhyme with another word, so I can see your statement only as sarcasm (besides, haven't you told me often enough that sarcasm is the only a la mode you are ever in?). Thus my response. However, please do not confuse me with someone who has sat on an upturned corncob. I take great pride in being careful where I sit!

xoxoxo

dale

[rayheinrich]

However I actually did write it on this page in response to you and it probably did take less than 5 minutes (I'm slower than Leanne, it always takes me at least a minute or three...unless I'm in a hurry). Also, yours was not a compliment. Unless

"Rhyming "wisdomism" and "wisdom in 'em" is SO cool!"

isn't sarcasm. It is hard to see this as a compliment as it is not difficult to make up a word to rhyme with another word, so I can see your statement only as sarcasm (besides, haven't you told me often enough that sarcasm is the only a la mode you are ever in?). Thus my response. However, please do not confuse me with someone who has sat on an upturned corncob. I take great pride in being careful where I sit!

xoxoxo

dale

Oh, damn, I should have some emoticon that expresses: "I'm actually being sincere".
But even that would be taken as sarcasm. But I WAS! Damn, well, see, you're gonna take as that
as well and even all after that as well as that. Fucking irony is a triple-edged sword: Those that
live by it end of possessing more sword-ripped assholes than that proverbial drove of sheep who
cried 'wolf' so often that they got their shepherd eaten by ravenous wolves (in the Australian
version they cry "rape").

So, yes, your response was entirely logical given the context. I wish there was something I could
say without it being taken ironically. Alas, there isn't.

Not as sincere as ever but actually sincerely sincere,
ray

[Erthona]

Rayon,

I think you are telling the truth, yet I am constrained from believing you. What a carniferous carbuncle you've created. Quite a masterpiece if it weren't so debilitating. Alas and alack I suffer from a similar malady called sarcausticism and a lava like substance drips from my anus every night as though I had anal leakage from eating to many potato chips, something that had yet to be defined as anything other than ∞ until recently. Now it is defined as AL2=Ω. So sad.

adel

[ellajam]

Ray wrote:

Oh, damn, I should have some emoticon that expresses: "I'm actually being sincere".

Well, billy's ruined the thumbs up because whenever he uses it I imagine a different finger raised.